Queer Karen's need to be stopped! - Episode 6

So much good is happening in the queer community this week! Rainbow masks are handed out in Poland, Netflix releases a documentary about the couple that inspired "A League of their own" and Queer Karen's need to go.

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spk_1:   0:06
This is Shanna, This is Chris. We are bad queers. If you came out of the closet and got put in a box of stereotypes, you don't belong. Teoh. As always. Welcome to the Back Queers Club. Welcome you

spk_0:   0:17
guys. Let's get right into our queer Urban Dictionary terms of the week. So this week in Queer Urban Dictionary, my term is diet, stud and diet. Study is a masculine of center lesbian who is more in touch with your feminine side than others. It's about having yeah, sentences. She preferred to be tabled a diet stud as she loved to be in touch. Thirst inside. Yeah, it's diet stud diet

spk_1:   0:46
study. Yet when you said that last week, I was like, I need this laid out in a sentence because it was Gloria's and I had never in my life heard

spk_0:   0:55
that free the other other terms. Soft stud. Um, I guess you could even get into stem. But you know, Diab, stud, it's just cute. And I said, same same, you know, same stud, different tastes. Ah, yeah, guy has done, you

spk_1:   1:11
know, that would be the diet that people would want to be on and I support

spk_0:   1:13
it? I would think so. Yeah. What's your term? This week? My queer Urban

spk_1:   1:17
dictionary term this week is Kiki. You? Kiki is a party that is for the soul express of having a good ass time. You want to decrease some stress. You want to relax and you want to do it all with your friends I miss Is it geeky? And this is so much so he used in a sentence. After this quarantine, we're going to have the biggest Kiki because I need it. I need to be around the people. I need to decrease the stress of, like, beams house and doing all the sayings. All this pandemic talking, all the stuff We're gonna have a Kiki all you're invited. I'm inviting you. Come and have a good time. Please way.

spk_0:   1:53
I love the term, Kiki. You're right. It's a good old Kiki. And once legendary comes out. If they don't play no, you know they will. They have e I think I think

spk_1:   2:02
I would be so upset. And if you all have a listen to the song, let's have a Kiki. That's by Todd Trick, right?

spk_0:   2:07
I believe so. Yeah. It

spk_1:   2:08
was by Todd recall amazing person in general. So just go and like, get lost into the deep YouTube of soldier Call. But listen to it. I highly suggest it moving on. It's time to hear about the stories we don't

spk_0:   2:20
get to hear. It's queer News time, Chris. Should I start with a happy

spk_1:   2:25
story or my other happy story?

spk_0:   2:29
Okay, I'm gonna go with the ladder. Have story. Yes.

spk_1:   2:33
Okay, we're gonna talk about it because it's so good and I'm so excited. And I only recently found out about this like this morning. So Netflix is coming out with a new documentary about this couple who's been together for, like, 65 plus year. Oh, my God. And they're so fucking cute. So if you have ever watched a league of their own, this documentary is based off the couple that inspired a league of their own. So my God, Terry Donahue was the one who inspired it in at Pat. Henschel was a partner, and it's just like it's so humbling because you read the description and the things that they say about each other. And

spk_0:   3:10
they're like, No, like, that's nice set. We inspired a movie, but you know. I just got a first the love of my life. And it was like that was how simple

spk_1:   3:16
it was, like how great it must have. Just be in that simple Give it your all everything type of love. And the trailer is like two minutes, and I'm like, I don't even need the whole documentary because I'm already emotional and that's how I feel. The documentary is titled A Secret Love, and it talks about their resilient love from the forties. They met in 1947 and are still together today, so I just needed to, like, read this description. But I got from Out magazine, and the description says the women fell in love in 1947 though they maintained a relationship and were essentially inseparable. They kept their love secret, with many assuming that they were just roommates, good friends or cousins. And I don't know what other description of a lesbian relationship we really need because that's all that people think are is like,

spk_0:   4:10
Hey, is that your sister or hey, is that your family member or hey, is that your best friend? And for them to go through their whole like their families

spk_1:   4:17
didn't even know they just knew them as onto Terry and Auntie Pat. And that's what it was like. These

spk_0:   4:23
two are best friends. And desolate. Isn't

spk_1:   4:25
readers know? No. Y'all like come, come on. And the trailer opens up with them, like looking at elder like facility homes from there to be in and they're openly asking about like, like, do you have same sex couples

spk_0:   4:40
here and there like, Oh, yeah, well, we haven't had any here, but we've had family members. You have them and they're like, No, we're the for

spk_1:   4:47
the ones. This is This is us where the ones that are together And it's just so simple how they say it. And I think this is the love story that needs to be told The fact that it's titled a secret Love is just beautiful in all of the things. And it's coming so soon. Hold on. Oh, my gosh. I thought I wrote down the date. Let me look. Let me look. Let me look. I think, um, sounds amazing. Like next week. Oh, next week. Next. Yep. April 27th. Get at me. It is coming out next week, and I will be sitting there and watching with my bag of popcorn and my body tissues. And that's Yeah, I'm gonna be

spk_0:   5:26
We got to talk about that one. Once that comes out, that's that's awesome. Wow, what is cool? Well, I'm not gonna get into my sad story or just annoying story of the week. Um, but this one was funny for me. Zoom is cracking down on organizing, uh, orgies or sex parties during this outbreak. Lump. My God, when I saw this headline, I was like, I mean, absolutely, absolutely. People are, but, you know, we can't have nice things. This is why we can't have nice things. But, you know, I will offer a counterpoint to this in the article to this was on ah, them then got us one of my favorite player, uh, sites. But you know, there's been over 200 million daily actor users on Zoom since March since we've been quarantine. So there have been, you know, everything from weddings toe happy hours. Queen Elizabeth is throwing a zoom birthday party coming up. But if those things were happening, then there's most certainly some sexual things happening. So Zoom is cracking down in drawing the line at Hanky Pinky. So they updated their user policies explicitly prohibiting any obscene, indecent, illegal or violent activity or content on the planet for meaning. This this means pornography or engaging any sexual acts that fall outside of acceptable use guidelines. So Zuma's got going down on that There are, you know, of course I had to. If there's thes things are going on, of course I want to know about the events that are going out. Really, You know, they there's been everything from queer users beginning usual master patient sessions. Um, of course, there's orgies, their sex club meet ups and it's just like I get why, Obviously they don't want any anymore high ability on anything, any security issues and privacy issues. Counterpoint to that is just like I mean, if it's consenting adults, so what? I I'm sure there's legal ramifications behind it, But you know, if I personally don't want to get on a mutual masturbation session and I don't want Teoh zoom orgy with you guys, I'm sure we could combine that word to like Georgie. I don't want to Georgie or anything like that. We're, however, I just feel like if you're paying for their platform. I mean, we're not really using it anyway for its intended use in a lot of cases. So if it's consenting adults, you know, I don't know. I just think you kind of let it rock. I think that, you know, during this unprecedented time, just just let people figured things out, Like I just found it funny. But of course, Zoom had to crack down. I understand why they cracked down, but, wow, I was just like you guys. You I'm actually just more impressed about how creative we are. Really? There's no intuit our creativity with things like, you know, things have probably actually been happening since before, but now that everybody's using zoom and they're starting to have

spk_1:   8:41
to crack down on like their security and all of that the this is in, they've caught them. And all of these people like, How am I supposed to a long distance do this now? Like

spk_0:   8:51
you know, couples

spk_1:   8:51
be on face time and doing all of this

spk_0:   8:53
is just a bigger version of honestly, I think Zoom should

spk_1:   8:55
capitalize on this community, and they could make a zoom after dark or some shit.

spk_0:   9:01
Exactly. Model it after, like, Onley fans like you're paying. Probably Mawr to have a zoom after dark. He's a free idea Zoom that we're giving you You won't go after dark account. And it's just like, yeah, I mean, I'm not going to say that if this was a thing like, it would be interesting to get on a zoom where there's at least 100 video participants at this point. Right? It just be interesting to see, Like, if you've never been to a sex party where Damn sure not gonna have any any time soon, then this is probably the safe way to get into it. So, I mean, I think again I get why they're stopping it. Because it is a slippery slope. Literally. But I mean, you know, let people let people get that energy out any way they want. Teoh and creatively. Anyway, they want to. And if there's consent, consenting adults let him do it. Yeah, I support that. Well, yeah. Zoom, do what you do. Whatever, but you know, those parties will find another platform. I'm sure that those Yeah, just capitalize on it. Just capitalize if nothing else. What We should just really know about ourselves as humans. It's like nothing will keep us away from, like having sex and having it in different ways and with different people and all that, like it's gonna happen. You might want to capitalize on it. But who am I? Do you mind? My

spk_1:   10:19
final story is another positive one. I just love seeing all the good stuff happening. So there is this adorable Polish gay couples that is running around Poland handing out rainbow pride masks

spk_0:   10:32
and I love it. They started this at home.

spk_1:   10:35
They got friends and family to sew together. I think they started with 300 Rameau Mass. And they just walked around Poland and handed these out to people who did not have masks. And the thing that I thought actually was hilarious in the video because they did make a video of them doing this wonderful thing and talking about it and seeing the interactions interactions that

spk_0:   10:54
they had but a couple of the people, because,

spk_1:   10:57
like Poland is the high smoking area, they were handing out mass to people who were actively sitting and smoking stops. It was like they don't deserve it, but also whom I So Yacoub and Dawid are a couple and were bold enough to hand these out when Poland. Right now, it has

spk_0:   11:16
not been very popular when it comes to LGBTQ, plus friendliness for the community. Because right now

spk_1:   11:22
there's been a bunch of propaganda pulling, implemented, like LGBT free zones, which I'm like, you know, at least half LGBT people to population probably lives in those free zones. So is it just like, do I get to go and get free? Shit. Do I get to go out and be free? No, they're like you can be gay in this part of the area. It's like, how are you going to manage that? But

spk_0:   11:44
do you government see what you want to try and do? And pulling is also trying to categorize homosexuality as pedophilia. I saw that just balances, right? Totally balances. Uh, but with this I'm sorry. You know, we're with our affiliate in queer people. Okay, Alright. If but if we take that same logic, then you would have to shut down schools. You would have to keep you know, the opposite gender, like older males away from females. Because that happens more often than not, and vice a versa to There is definitely a lot of adults who rape or molest Children. So it's just like it always comes down to fairness because it's like that Same logic could be used on breeders, like, don't have breeders around kids. Could God only knows, Like the Boy Scouts of America, the Girl Scouts of America allegedly and they're fighting these different cases. So it was just, like, Why? Why are we associated with pedophilia? Like it makes no sense. Like, I just want to

spk_1:   12:43
know the first person who said it and then everybody else is like,

spk_0:   12:46
Oh, yeah, right. And you know that I did somebody just like That's the idea. Somebody connected it falsely, and then it on Lee just took a lot of other people to just go sign it. I'm sorry. You go. What? You're sorry? I just always hate when they do that. Like I'm just like what? What does that even mean? Like about? Like, breeders don't seem less kids, huh? Okay.

spk_1:   13:06
I mean, law and Order s V. You prove that points. Oh,

spk_0:   13:08
my God. Here. Episode one. Episode of season minimum at minimum, but okay, sure. Just less

spk_1:   13:16
agility events and has her back. And honestly, I trust everything she says so here. So, yes, but you know, we're not gonna let that negativity get to us because this is a positive thing that's happening around the world, and they have recorded the whole thing so you can look them up. I got this article off of the Advocate and pretty sure they posted on YouTube because that's where all the videos go. So look up their story. Check them out. It's like six minutes. You could do that for six minutes of your day to support this wonderful couple, and I hope that they continued to do these great things around the world.

spk_0:   13:49
That's awesome. Will shout out to them and just anybody living in just a area hostile area, just like ah, we're with You were thinking about you that that's just disappointing. Anyhow, in other disappointing news, look, it's almost like a day earlier or bi weekly, I would say, actually, stop! Stop attacking celebrity Children, just Children in general. So this comes from pink news. Ah, Holly Berry, Holly, Holly Berry, Hoof, Halliburton. Hello today. Give her time crushes Just my first queer crash. I always give Holly lose. That's a good one. That's a good first and endearing one. Okay. Ah, but Holly Berry son, um, six year old son and both her kids. She is notoriously private about showing, but she was showing her son on Instagram a couple days ago, walking around the home in ah, pair of her high heeled leather boots as kids do. As you guessed it, the biggest came out and shamed her son for wearing heels. Because, of course, in all that is, of course, and yeah, Holly Berry stuck to her guns as she would. And you can't just try Holly Berry. No, and she chimed in and said, Listen, Linda, you know, somebody said, I hope that's a girl. Oh, I hope that's the daughter, referring Teoh her son. And she says, Fortune. She's unfortunately, it's my son. And she said, I'm scrolling up because I'm looking at this article. I don't want

spk_1:   15:26
to misquote Miss Berry. Oh, no, I love this very and it's gone,

spk_0:   15:31
she said. Well, it's a he and he is having a ball. And, she said, trying to cope the best way he can laughter helps a lot right now, it's tied on these kids right now. Let's laugh and have some compassion, and it's just like that's why people show their kids like E. That is the most innocent thing. There's been plenty of breeder boy's head of foot heals on as a as a child. And I guarantee you heels are not a gateway to being queer like they're just not know it's never happened that way. I promise you, as a person who grew up in an intensely heterosexual world, I was intensely gay. So it doesn't matter what you do. Your gay kids are gonna be gay or bi. Kids are gonna be by your Trans kids. They're gonna be Trans and your breeder kids are gonna be breeders like lead kids alone. Let them play, like stop adding all of these things to it like it's not that big of a deal. Holly Berry with the classy come back and protective of her son, um, he's having a ball he's in. He'll stop attached his take shoes all the time. All the time. It doesn't matter

spk_1:   16:37
what shoes all the time. They're just gonna Teoh because they know what. They're bigger and they're going to challenge themselves. It's like this in a state. My nephew steals shoes and puts them on just because they're available and and he's like, Oh, that's a shoe. I know that my foot goes since you said you and that's it. That's literally the scythe. Having this whole existential thought of my first hell, I'm

spk_0:   17:01
queer. I know this is it. This is it. Sounds come crashing in the back and it's just like, Okay, relax. Everybody like more. So the fact

spk_1:   17:12
that people get so hyped about people's kids

spk_0:   17:14
I know I can imagine I couldn't imagine, like, even just talking to adults Stop that Just

spk_1:   17:21
like, lowers like you're scum already. That just lowers your sense of scum. Yeah, by attacking kids, it's like just go and continue toe deal with adults who have more resource is to do all these things. Thankfully, this kids can't read who are playing in these things. So it really is just a waste of your time to go on Type it because they're probably like to between 2 to 5. Yeah, they're not coming on here reading your comments and then understanding them like

spk_0:   17:45
yeah, and what do you What do you get out of that? Like, What do you get like? That's what I want to know with the, you know, with the people coming out against, you know, Zaia, Wade, Um, or even just this. Like it's just what do you get from commenting on that? Like, Do you think Dewayne Wade and Gabrielle Union should be like, Oh, well, the world? Why do you think that they should just look at this to be like, Wow, the world is really not against? I should probably tell my child not to do this because of the The world's not ready. So, my child, My God, we've got to stop this. Like, what do you get out of commenting on other people's kids? Or even just with the Holly Berry thing? Like don't tell my kid how to have fun. Like, if my kid was have fun with heels, let them have feel like my there were all indoors, like just I know it. This even if Cove in 19 wasn't going on, this would be the same kind of backlash or whatever, but it's just like leave kids alone. Stop attaching these things to kids where it's just like you're already wrong. Like don't bring up another generation with your irrational thoughts and fears like it's it's tired. It's old, it's just crazy. But it's the world we still live in. So that was my story for this week. I'm sure there will be another story of a celebrity kid or just something where people are just not with it. But, yeah, heels aren't a gateway to being queer. They're just not. That's all we have for our queer new segment. What do we got next, Chris? We're gonna get into our AM I a Bad Queers advice section. So am I. Bad Queer is an advice segment that ranges all topics of the queer experience. Seen your question questions? Too bad. Queers pod at gmail dot com to be featured. Our first question comes from anonymous, so I'm gonna call anonymous Amy Amy asked, Am I bad queer if I currently have a girlfriend, but I constantly think of my ex. Uh, we've been dating for a few months and she has been great, but the way my ex and I left it floppy route and then con, I still have hope that there will be a comeback. I can't stop thinking about the what ifs. How do I move on without hurting my current girlfriend, Amy? Ah. Oh, Amy, you're not a bad queer for this. Um, this is kind of par for the course for us. Like this is you know, this is this is this happens constantly all the time. That is true. Yeah. Um, if you haven't gotten over your ex, I would just say that's the conversation. I mean, you definitely should figure you're your own feelings and thoughts out, but, um, you shouldn't keep your current girlfriend around like I feel like you're only keeping your current girlfriend around if the X thing doesn't kick back up or work out. It seems like this current girlfriend is more of a rebound. So I think that you have to be mindful of, like you, Rob Lee, are in a rebound relationship to which you shouldn't hurt that person's feelings or waste their time any further until you figure out what's going on with your feelings with your ex and it's Daddy even is a thing like, let's just say you let your current situation rock, you stay with your current girlfriend and then 23 months from now you get a hey, stranger texts from that X. Are you going right back to her? Like it's just if you if you know, you probably would. And you're not really all in with this new current girlfriend. I'd see. I would say, cut the curtain girlfriend loose now And my figure out the your feelings, cause it it seems like it's gonna go down a messy path. Like I'm more than sure your ex girlfriend is gonna Haitian, do you? At some point, because that's just life. So what is that? What's gonna happen with that? Like, I don't think your feelings are gonna die out. I think, um, yeah. Like you, you have to figure out what the hell is going on and separate from, you know, other human beings that you could hurt. So, um yeah, not about queer, but you certainly need to figure this out without hurting anybody. What do you think, Tiana? Yeah, I mean, you said

spk_1:   22:07
it. You said it like this Also makes me think that current girlfriend does not know about ex girlfriend Sheldon. And I mean, you didn't give us a lot of detail, so I can't. So I'm just gonna make up some scenarios of things that I say. Yeah. Does this seem like OK, if you're still a few months in with this girl was that was

spk_0:   22:31
the current person that you're talking to. A rebound one to. Are you still talking to your ex? I like that your voice is getting higher with. And then are you Are you really into the cargo? I just need to know, like, these are all of those things where I'm like it just feels like a slippery slope between, okay, Possibly thinking of your ex. Cool, Cool. Cool. We do tend to do

spk_1:   22:56
that, especially if this was a rebound. And you did just bounce in immediately. And you think of those what ifs but don't allow the issues with the past relationship be the thing that, like, drags you in. If you still genuinely, Even though you said that it was sloppy and you were out. So it sounds like you ended on a note that you didn't want to end on and that it

spk_0:   23:17
possibly was a

spk_1:   23:18
really good relationship. Up until that point, if that's something where you're like, I still actually do have feelings for my girlfriend rather than what if we had ended it on a good note? Like, Have you taken the time to try and reach out to the X and have that conversation? And maybe it's just closure you need and not like a what if we were still together type thing? So that's one scenario, Or is it the what if we were still together? And I need to have that conversation that says, I still have feelings for you. I want to work this out and go back. So I

spk_0:   23:49
think those are

spk_1:   23:49
the two things that you need to figure out. You just you're looking for closure, or do you actually want to go back to your ex? Because those are two different conversations, but regardless you do not. I need to drag your current girlfriend through this, and if you want to be transparent about the fact that it's like, Hey, you're amazing and all of this and here's what's happening with me right now, I'm gonna take the time to figure it out like I'd rather you step up to the plate, then continue to be shady and do all these things. But if

spk_0:   24:19
you do figure out that

spk_1:   24:20
it's just like friendly closure and you're just going to go off and talk and do whatever and not end up in each

spk_0:   24:25
other's bed, then okay,

spk_1:   24:26
like, you probably don't need to worry about it. Go and do the talk, being adult and then handle it. But the way that you've written is in does not sound like you're ready for that. So don't put yourself in a situation where it can lead to you hurting your current

spk_0:   24:37
girlfriend. I just I mean, it sounds like Yeah, that current girlfriend is a rebound and probably lovely. Exactly. Probably what exactly? Lovely even know. Don't hurt that girl. Don't hurt that girl. Just be riel. Yep. What else do we have next? OK, our next

spk_1:   25:00
person. Oh, it's a highly type of day. We got it from Halley says, Am I a bad queer? I recently started talking to someone online, but she admitted that she used to talk to a lot of women. And now that has me skeptical if she's currently talking to a a lot of women while also talking me. Oh, that was a connecting statement. Okay, And now that has me skeptical that if she is currently talking to a lot of women while also talking to me, I know I shouldn't get all up in my feelings. But I also want to call her out, which would make me the bad. A queer staying silent or speaking up. Mm. I mean, what context did she say that she used to talk to a lot of women. Was in general. Was this her past? She sounds like used to Which could mean past sense. Have you all had that determined the relationship talk? Have you only been able to talk to her online because of this quarantine? Like all of these scenarios. Yeah. And so I would say one if she is talking to other people while talking to you. And it's only online.

spk_0:   26:00
This is what this is what we do. This is an issue in this. Actually, Did this just happen in the last episode of insecurity? No. Spoiler. Sorry. Basically, it's like when you go in

spk_1:   26:10
and you start talking to someone. It's almost like we always think that they have to stop talking to other people. Yeah. You haven't put a title on it.

spk_0:   26:20
You also probably haven't even met in person. So what are you What do you calling her

spk_1:   26:25
on if she have Lee admitted that like she either used to She used to talk to a lot of women. That doesn't mean that's actively happening. Now. You could test the waters and just be like, Hey, are you talking to anybody else? Currently? But there's there's no room for you.

spk_0:   26:41
This is

spk_1:   26:41
what You know what? Actually, this is like, what grinds my gears? I'm gonna make this an unpopular,

spk_0:   26:45
But people that are out and just talking to someone, that's what you're doing. You're they have

spk_1:   26:52
the freedom to go and continue to date and do whatever else up until the point that you needed to determine the relationship. And those were my thoughts. So I would say potentially a bad queer. You have the potential to be a bad queer.

spk_0:   27:07
Yeah, you're You're on that borderline there. Yeah, yeah, I have that same peppy where you all are just talking. My cover's online online, Like that person is talking to a lot of women. Yeah, but I could I'll answer your question, Howie. Yeah, Yeah, they're probably it's heavily talking to other women, and that's fine because there's no label on anything that you're doing. And also stop trying to. You all do a virtual, you know, you said it's a big controlling to like. It's just like, yeah, If this person is impacting your feelings like this already, well, then they clearly mean something to you. So you should talk to that person about that. And if you don't want them talking to other people and have a conversation about being exclusive, but like getting all up in arms about them talking other people, you are you you are bad queer ish for that, your bad queer ish, at least for it, Like it's It's like what? Like I don't go together like yeah, that prison probably talking to somebody else. But there's nothing wrong with it that's also called That's dating. I don't know, like

spk_1:   28:15
just that's what the definition dating is. That's what it is. And people need to get

spk_0:   28:20
over that. Yeah, I feel like some people treat dating sometimes his marriage and other people treated in a different way, like as as dating and what comes down to it being, you know, okay or acceptable for both parties is just talking it out and communicating about, like, your intentions and what you want with that person. But you you gotta let that go. Yep. Yeah, That yeller just talking. Like I said, that's it. That's it. That's all it is. That's all it is. So our last question comes from it's another anonymous, so we'll call anonymous. Hey, hey, hey. Asked. Am I a bad queer? I was supposed to get married earlier this year. Die, die, die, Die. But I cheated in her family. Found out about it. Well, also, I cheated on her with an X so x s central to fix this situation and get my future wife and future family back anonymous. Um oh, sweetie, this goes Teoh released. We said this and we said this in another episode. You're not a bad queer, but you you are a bad fiance was like, Stop lying to them. Yes, they are not about queer. Not a bad queer, horrible fiance. Uh, not even Just bad, Horrible fiance. I'm supposed to get married earlier this year, but I say that was weird. Like it's that that is also that's That's along the same lines as Holly's question, where it's like it's having your cake and eating it, too. But it's also a controlling thing where it's just You knew you were getting married. I got married last year getting married costs. I'm sure you're putting somebody into it. So you knew you were getting married, but you decided to cheat on her with an ex. It's not even a random. It wasn't a bad night where you slipped and fell into pussy. You cheated with an X, and now you want your future. What you don't even say future once and future family. That ship has sailed by failed. It is God like I would want nothing to do with you if we're like about to get married. And you cheated with your eggs and you still want to get married? Hell, no. No. There's no God damn way. I would pay you to leave. Get the fuck out of here. Like what? In the world again? You might even have a sliver of a chance. A sliver of a chance if it was just some random person. Right, But in x? No, no. So into your bed. Exactly. Exactly. and your fiance probably knows your ex. So, you know, she doesn't know She does. You know she does. And it's just like if I was your partner or your your fiance Ex fiance. In this, I would be like, how long was like, How long was this situation developing, Teoh? Like, that's my question. Like, how long is this developing? When did you start talking again? Windage All decide. Like now we're gonna actually meet up and do the deed. Like if you were thinking about that Well, I was thinking about table settings and colors for our wedding. We don't need to commit. Tell you're not getting your family This not this wife. Maybe a future wife elsewhere. Family. Not this wife. Not this way. No chance. You're not a bad queer. You're just a horrible fiance. That's how I feel about you. Teii You You got so passionate about that I did because it was just like, how do I fix this situation and get my future wife and your family back? Get out of here. You know, like you said exactly what I was saying. I was like, I'm sorry. What? What?

spk_1:   31:56
Family and what wife because the those air no longer exists. Once you decided to do that right on. And that's you know, I don't even have anything to add. Chris said, All of it. No to tan. No, that's it. That's it. So

spk_0:   32:11
the answer is No. But you don't know if your ex fiancee is holding strong. You know, I was about to say that. I hope she's listening to this and understands that we're talking about her and their situation. Girl, don't don't marry that girl. She's gonna cheat again. You're gonna cheat again like she just is like, move on with your life. Yeah, my gosh. Like yes, because for a wedding, like they were going to do this while we're trying to plan for a wet na na. All right. Also say you are a back. We're just trying to come in with, like, the niceness. And then you heard the restaurant and the niceness. I don't think that bad queer you just a bad fiance like that's not bad. That's you know, that's not that's not, You know, that could happen in any that could happen. A breeders that happens to breeders. I'll figure that it is terrible and horrible. And you fucked with her money coming around the marriage. Like how During her money, you never know it down deposits that you cannot get back. I will say, you know what? If every time you say something in the back where we disagree, like Oh, no, they could be a back if you like. You come back at you because you know what I thought of. I was like, What if What if the ex fiance like, what if they had a difficult time coming out to their family and they finally got to a point. They're about to get married and au sheeted. Can you imagine that? The scenarios that way to write it more detailed stuff because I know you will make

spk_1:   33:36
up a whole other drama, but you just brought it to your life. Yeah, and talk about it. And we just brought up the fact that it's like, Yeah, you could have been the first person that they came out to you and went through this whole step, and the family started to accept it, and now they're going to go back and be like, So you gonna get that taking a

spk_0:   33:53
right exactly. Exactly Exactly. Yes. Oh, no, no. Tell. You are bad queer. You are with my fix scenario. You are bad queer. 10 don't even know what that happened. But you are now. All right, Well, that is the end off are are are different hypotheticals that way. Am I a bad queer advice? Especially advice with our stories, right? Exactly. Again, singer questions. Too bad. Queers pot at gmail dot com to be featured. And we will tell you if you're being a bad queer bad queer ish or update our thoughts in the middle of telling you that you're not a bad career. Tell your back we're Yep. Not not. Okay. Next segment. What type of backwards would be if we didn't have unpopular bad queer opinions? You know, Kristina lets you go. I feel like you're

spk_1:   34:46
on a roll, and I'm gonna let you. I'm gonna let you start with

spk_0:   34:49
firing, right? Yes. Siree going on here? Well, my my bad queer opinion for this week are Ah, queer people are assholes. You know, we're assholes. And I'm saying we're because I'm a queer person. We're assholes. That's my bad queer opinion. I think we could be nicer to each other like I don't think we've gotten to that point of, like, I think theoretically we think of ourselves as Pham. But in practice, it doesn't work out that way. And unfortunately, because we live in the world that we live in, we've been mirroring some, like oppressor like behavior toe ourselves. Obviously there's a hierarchy within, within just our community with just hardship. And then there's a racial dynamic of it. There's the gender dynamic of it. There's so many things. But on top of that, we could just be assholes like we can really be assholes to each other. You know, I and and if nothing else, that this quarantine has taught us with a lot of different lessons on a lot of areas of life. We can actually be nicer to each other because no one else is going to be nice to have you got Poland and other countries still trying to roll back our rights and taking back. We're not at a place where we should be that we think we can really a similarly like I don't think we're there yet, Like, I think we've kind of we got to a point where, you know, especially here in America, at least like we have, we have marriage, equality and everything. Definitely a lot of other things we still don't have. But I feel like because marriage was such a big piece of it, like we've kind of slacked in, like making sure we're still good in other areas. And because some of us socio economically are doing better than others, it's like they're good. We've made it. There's no other struggle. We've gotten over the hump and we could treat others either as asked holes because of that dynamic where you just social socio economically don't see it for each other or just just personally, you go into a club or a bar back when we were able to go outside and yeah, you judge you judge a queer person based on some shitty, probably breeder like Heteronormative shit like, you know what I mean. We could be such assholes to each other, and we don't need to be, and this is not limited to just our our group. I mean, there's other ah minority identity groups that definitely have this problem. But I'm speaking specifically about our family, our queer family. It could be assholes, and we could be nice, nicer to each other. And we should be nicer to each other. We should be nicer to each other. I'll say it again. We should be nicer to each other. No one else is going to be nice to us, like at all and all that, and like just dismissing it as that's the world. This is the world we live in. That's how people are as cliche like we don't have to be this way like we all we got is ourselves and we should be nicer to each other. So that's my bad queer opinion that we're assholes and we need to stop being assholes and be nicer to each other. I love it. Yeah, I would add

spk_1:   38:00
on. But I think that mind kind of jumps into what you're talking about.

spk_0:   38:03
As my bad queer opinion is, the queer parents

spk_1:   38:05
of the world need to be stopped. Got to stop him if you vicious

spk_0:   38:09
all the whole queer Calista Karen's.

spk_1:   38:12
But you know, this is the podcast, the highlights, the queer community and queer people. And there are Karen's in our community. They are sometimes highlighted as this white gay men. They are sometimes highlighted assists, liking women. They're just Karen's that pop in and think that they that their troubles are the biggest in the world, and they're going to find people who are below them in trailer that they feel are below them and try and make their lives worse. And it's just it's not necessary is like the part where it's like we're assholes like you go through. And I mentioned this the last episode where it was heartbreaking to go in and see that in co relation with celebrating lesbian visibility week that lesbians were also talking down Teoh other identities where they're like, Yeah, but I'm not

spk_0:   39:04
that and it's like how crazy as a part of the same community, how are you going

spk_1:   39:09
to lessen the person in the same community like I just don't I understand the logic of it, and that's where you know, when you when you say that we're marrying oppressor like behavior, this is what it is like. You can think back to racial size, and you can think back

spk_0:   39:23
to actually Rachel ties that's currently happening. You think about what's currently

spk_1:   39:26
happening, and the resource is we do not have and the ways that we cannot move about life and do all of the things. It's just it's frustrating and to go and watch some of these protests and

spk_0:   39:37
some of them I have seen

spk_1:   39:39
some very stereotypical LGBTQ plus looking people with Stand back with the ray bans with the little bandannas hanging out the pocket and you know, the gay. But then they're like,

spk_0:   39:48
Oh, we need to stop taking away my freedom and do whatever and I can do all this. And I'm like, Sweetie, remember that time

spk_1:   39:56
when you're talking about all lives mattered? This is not the time things this like, not it, not it. We're not bringing this back up. We're not starting over. We're not doing this. The queer Karen's of the world and they can bring their siblings Karen along as well. They need to be stopped, gotta be stopped tenfold over, and we need to hold people accountable who do these things in all of that so

spk_0:   40:22
tied in with yours with the queer Karen's in the regular Karen the breeder, Karen's of the world are that they seem to find the microphone like they're the loudest ones. And unfortunately, a lot of people just inhuman. Just people. Humans are kind of the, you know, the silent majority types, and they'll tend to lean towards the Karen's of the world that have no idea what they're talking. The queer Karen's the regular carrots like you. They have to be stopped for that very reason, like they're strong and wrong, loud and just, well, proud of their their policy. But it's just like no, like we got to stop those queer Karen's, we got us. We have to call it out and we gotta stop being assholes to each other. I feel like our bad queer opinions were pretty insane. Yes, we waste time like you can talk about Astle's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like they just Yeah, I mean, if you don't know what the Karen phenomenon is, look it up. I mean, there's nothing but time toe looking upon insurrectionary, but add that to your YouTube search. Yeah, the Karen's of the world, if you don't Google are like the backyard. Becky's the all of the means of the folks that are just like yeah, out there, causing problems for people that are just trying to live honestly and that are a part of minority groups.

spk_1:   41:45
Cells, if you need, like, movie references, think of like, you know, like a mean girls think of like a legally blonde. Yeah, yeah. Think of like bring it on. But not Gabrielle Union

spk_0:   41:59
school. Exactly. And not yours. Didn't dunce coming to her senses either. Like a lot of parts before that, they would probably continue to just use their their cheers. What underrated movie to you know what I mean? Yeah, that was my non like even with the diameter in that movie. Thank in Gabrielle Union. It still looks the exact same two shots of Gabrielle Union. You saw her? Put that off it. Back on for her birthday. I did God's blessing. Same person, person girl. Oh, that's great. Wow, This has been filling in affirming. Thank you. All right.

spk_1:   42:39
You know, we got to do before we go. It's almost our time to leave you all home. You know, we hate to do it, but we got end on a positive. We're gonna get our weekly shoutouts. My shut out this

spk_0:   42:48
week are to the nurses and health

spk_1:   42:51
care workers, especially the LGBT Q plus ones because y'all just sometimes probably have to work with some people who are not the best. And if they do figure out that you're queer, probably don't treat you the best. And this could be before or during and potentially after this pandemic. But you all are doing great. I appreciate you for all that you're doing. We are. Chris and I are recording this from a distance and trying to make sure that we are staying home so that you all can stay safe. And we just love you for all the things that you do. So shadow T all for keeping us alive and safe.

spk_0:   43:28
Thank you for everything. That's a great shot out. Thank you. All right. My shot out is to steroid Beyonce steroid Beyond, Say, that is Trans model Devon or El. I loved Evan. Writer as well. Recently stumbled upon his instagram, which is steroid. Beyonce spelled just like it sounds, and it's just I mean as a person. And I mentioned that a couple of episodes back where it's just like I had my own biases with, like, just even just what Trans people go through. But I love I. I love just like seeing you just trans men and women like elevate in their platforms, you know, because I just think again, the more visibility the better. But I don't know, I just like the different ways that these platforms are going to like Sarah Beyonce. First up is a great name for Instagram pic out and, yeah, it. But check out Devon's writings again. Devon is a writer and a model, but, um, yeah, just shout out to Sarah, Beyonce and just everybody making moves honestly, especially during

spk_1:   44:43
this time, while we're still stuck in the house like go you all for being the type of people that are productive during a pandemic. I mean, I don't know how much we can say like, we're recording podcast during it, but

spk_0:   44:53
here we are. Everybody was doing

spk_1:   44:54
to keep it up. Stared Beyonce's I Love You, I love Devin. I love washing all of their things and posting other stuff, So give them a follow. Give them a shout, and that's all we have for this episode. We'll see you next time. Thank you for tuning in as always, and keep being your bag yourself.

spk_0:   45:12
All right, take care