Bad Queers

You only love her because of queerantine - Episode 4

April 29, 2020 Shana & Kris Season 1 Episode 4
Bad Queers
You only love her because of queerantine - Episode 4
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Is Ellen Page going to replace Ellen Degeneres? Will we ever just let Zaya Wade live her best life? Or will famous rappers continue to comment on her life? Along with friend breakups and advice about a queerantine u-haul, this episode is full of the ultimate queer moments.

Bad Queers is co-hosted by:
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Kris Chesson: @kris.chess

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spk_1:   0:06
This is Shanna and Chris, and we are bad queers. If you came out of the closet and got put in a box of stereotypes you don't belong to Welcome to the Bad Clears Club. Yes, so this week and Queer Urban Dictionary my term is a throwback term, but probably pretty relevant for today. It is lesbian bed death, lesbian bed death. It's defined as a drop off in sexual activity after a few years into a long term lesbian relationship. Some of the some of us have heard this come up in the past, or maybe you haven't. But essentially, it's when the sex drops off because you've been in a relationship for a while, So it just kind of, naturally kids doll, I guess. So, that is, I'm hoping that it's not afflicting as many people as it probably is right now during this quarantine, but definitely a relevant term to bring up Shane O. What do you Have? Mine is another acronym. We have SAB

spk_0:   1:06
or S A B, which stands for sex assigned at birth. It is a phrase used to intentionally recognize a person's assigned sex, not their gender identity, so this typically breaks down if you see ah acronyms like a fab or a mab, which is assigned female at birth or assigned male at birth. This typically happens when someone say, if you're a trans man or a trans woman and you were assigned the opposite sex at birth and that is not what fits your gender identity. Same with non binary folks. Same intersex for anything like that. It just shows that gender is a construct. And that doesn't make you. You are so used in sentence at my birth. The doctor assigned me a fab or assigned female at birth. But that is not my gender identity. Gotta

spk_1:   1:57
ready? Nice. I didn't use my lesbian. It does, in a sense, but I will. Now I want it. Please do it. I hope no one is suffering from lesbian bed death. That is my sentence for this week. You, you're like, let me give you the sentence. But also this little bit of inspiration, right? Right. It's hopeful. It's hopeful, hopeful, like I really hope it's not happening. I know it's happening. I just hope it's not happy. Yeah, that's our queer Urban Dictionary terms for this week. Thank you very much alright. It's time to hear about the stories we don't get to hear. It's clear news time. I'm gonna

spk_0:   2:40
go ahead and get started this week. So looking into a positive, bright light future of the things and I'm so happy about this because I only just discovered this person last year, and I'm very disappointed myself that I hadn't heard of her sooner. Hannah Gas be Comedian Australian Force and Genuine Human is launching a new Netflix comedy special in May. And I am so excited it is called Douglas. It's coming to Netflix and we get to have Hannah Gatsby back on our socially distant screen. I could not be more excited. Her last comedy special, Nanette was Gold. And it also drops a bunch of amazing gems about identity and just being a part of the LGBTQ plus community. But also just being a person who is tired, you know? And it started off in a hilarious feet. White Chris,

spk_1:   3:35
have you seen? Have you seen her less? No. I was gonna let you finish and say like, I have not seen this. Is this on Netflix? Yes, it iss Oh, please. Washington Net, Please do it. Watch it. I'm

spk_0:   3:47
gonna give a slight spoiler to the people who have not watched it. But at the end of it, it's like this having a lucky thing. And she goes into a very serious monologue, which is also Justus inspiring. But she thought that at the end of that, because of the way that she approached misogyny and homophobia within her skin and within her show that it would end her career. And so she's just expected to retire and go and be poor and work in a shop and was completely content with it. And she said it in a man article from Pink News that it was actually incredibly freeing to kind of have that thought. Ah, but since she went back and was like, Wait, let me you see all of the success that came from the net like I would be stupid to not continue what I'm doing and just continue to be unapologetically myself. So she said that she would rather be a hypocrite, Uh, then a quitter. And so here she is, being a hypocrite, coming back with her next special, and I could not be more excited. Douglas is coming to Netflix on May 26 I could not be more excited.

spk_1:   4:51
Well, I'm excited to catch up on the net, so I definitely will have something to do after this. Yeah, like a cool, classic,

spk_0:   4:58
older lesbian type view just with the things that it's like. She says it and then you stop and you're like, Oh, my God, that's even more hilarious. Just because of the type of person you are. Who said it? Do you gonna

spk_1:   5:09
like it? Okay, Hannah, I'm sold. I'm sold. It's with the deepest of breath that I have to. A continuation of my story from a past is gonna become

spk_0:   5:23
a saga. I swear.

spk_1:   5:24
Yeah. Episode eso My first story this week is 1000 Sign a petition demanding that Ellen Page replaced Ellen Generous the battle of the Ellen's. The battle of the Ellen's this'll world is really following apart. So to recap on a previous episode, I got on Ellen for her poor jail quarantine joke, which I still stand behind a do a really samba behind it. However, when I saw this article about Ellen Page potentially replacing Ellen DeGeneres and it's a petition going around, has it got man. I'm gonna have come back in here into thin Ellen DeGeneres. God. So here goes. What? Leave Ellen DeGeneres alone. This is her show. She built it out. There will only be one Ellen, Just one name Ellen. And as too generous. Ellen Page is also a gym. We're lucky to have to Ellen's in the Queer Fam. However, Ellen Page could just make her own separate show like their let let Ellen Page have her own separate Lane does not need to replace Ellen. Too generous. I understand there's a lot of things out about Ellen I saw a couple weeks ago this whole thing about Ellen being really mean in real life. Obviously, I wasn't here for the joke and thought it was lazy. But Ellen is so living legend and icon, there's no reason for her to be, uh, taken off her own show that she built my gosh and and I will cape for Ellen because Ellen did change a lot of breeder hearts with her dances, some of the same dance wings for almost 10 years. But her dances, her jokes and all that in her joy has brought joy to many of us some of us on this podcast, and I just think that is not fair and just not right. T want to take her offer deep kroner. This is kind of a bigger thing, with kind of cancel culture, where it's like I believe cancel culture is a necessary evil. However, cancel coach kind of just eats too many people up and alive. And also it's just like and now you're getting out of hand. This is one of those things, like I don't I don't think that Ellen Age even wants to replace Ellen DeGeneres and even pitting them against each other is really stand like that's That's for, like a Nicki Minaj Carty thing like, Don't do that. We're better than that. And yeah, like I was I was annoyed to see that, because again I knew I had to come right back in here. And Kate for Ellen Degenerate. Slight leave. Ellen did generous alone. Let her continue on with her show. She's definitely had some missteps, as people seem to do OK to call her out about it. I'm all for that. But to take Ellen or replace her on her show with Ellen Page first off That's not even a same show like that. That is not even the same show. I can't imagine. But don't put Ellen Page in that position either. You know, like she probably doesn't want any smoke with Ellen. Too generous, but yeah, I am like that. I'm like, All right, y'all, we're getting out of hand now. So definitely wanted to come back. Talk about this story and cape a little bit for Ellen to generous, but, uh, yeah, no. Leave Ellen Degenerate on her show. You'll have plenty of petitions to sign. That would, actually, ah, be more helpful for the community. So, yeah, that's Ah, my first story of this week. Any comments on this as a Ellen Super fan? Shane O. Yes. I'm so proud of you for making a comeback on Ellen. So proud. I couldn't look a little whoa. Well, im don't come back. No, Come back. I am just sleeping. Literally afford this article. All right. Okay. I

spk_0:   9:08
will say I appreciate the respect that has had for a legend understanding that those one time statement that was lazy was what it was. It was lazy again. I totally agree with the cancel culture and, like sometimes people just do the most with it. And it's like

spk_1:   9:25
you said the one wrong fate, like Kevin Hart with that.

spk_0:   9:28
But that's a whole nother conference. Actually, I'm not even a deep dive into

spk_1:   9:30
the O last 45 minutes my gun discussing that. But in

spk_0:   9:37
reality there. And you know,

spk_1:   9:40
we don't need to replace Ellen like she has earned her spot. She's done her thing. It is fine. Keep it moving l. A. And this is also like bringing somebody

spk_0:   9:49
else into the beef that you weren't a part of. Like that. You're eating lunch, and then your friend gets an argument with somebody else

spk_1:   9:54
and is like, right right here. Me. And you're like, I'm just over here trying to eat. My friend will kick your ass, and I'm like, I'm just trying to eat my lunch. Just try to live my life like please do not bring me into this So good on that, right? Ellen's alone. Leave the owns to Ellen individually and officially, the whole lane for Ellen. Page has nothing to do, Ellen, to generously. You have a whole lane for

spk_0:   10:20
whole thing, so yes. All right. My next story has to go with Cassin Buddha judge addressing the not gay enough criticisms between him and his husband. Ah. So one story I feel like we don't get to hear a lot about is what the campaign trail was like for Cassin when he was campaigning for Mayor Pete for President. And there's been this follow up interview that Castle has done the Kastner Chasson. This Chasson, isn't it?

spk_1:   10:49
You know, I don't know. Okay, we're going to think it's Chassin. Okay, get Justin Chessen. He knows who he is. I was, like coming food dish, right? Peace husband, um, recently

spk_0:   11:02
did an interview that followed up about the critics where it was a back and forth dr between saying that they were too gay or not gay enough or that they were the wrong kind of gay and about how much coverage was actually happening between, like the LGBTQ plus press. And then the LGBTQ plus press came back. It was like we have actually never reported that about you in this one. That kind of fakes, like their LGBT q plus, actually didn't. And there is the whole thing that came out about Mayor Pete ignoring all the LGBTQ plus Press. And it's just this whole thing and all I could think about in this was Look,

spk_1:   11:42
these two came out here to live their

spk_0:   11:43
life and do their things, and that's what it was. And they were running in an open office. And this is the first, like, real openly person that was running for president. Amazing. Um, and

spk_1:   11:53
that's all I can think

spk_0:   11:54
about is the fact that everybody again like why we even created this podcast, was that people get put into this box and say that they're supposed to be X. But X looks different for all different backgrounds in all different people in Chassin. Hubby Buddha judge was out here to say, Like, you know, we are very aware of what the campaign could have looked like if we were that more stereotypically and outwardly gay, and that hurt my heart like, have to read that in an article. Words like Okay, what if they were a bit more stereotypically feminine or stereotypically flamboyant and what that would have looked like in the campaign and how far Pete would have made it, where because he looked like kind of a basic CIS male guy, you know, unthreatening on whatever and same with hubby Buddha judge that because this was their appearance, that people were able to digest it and take it in that that was a main part of why his campaign was so successful. And it's just like such a shame that, like he had to do a whole follow up about this and also makes me happy that, like we are doing this podcast and creating the space to highlight these situations where it's like it's such a shitty thought to have of like, man, What if you had just been slightly more stereotypically feminine, we wouldn't have been able to have us much hope with you for this. And so that's a recent article about chats and villages coming out and addressing these criticisms and his honest thoughts around them.

spk_1:   13:20
You know, you reading that article did make me a little sad, because Onley because we talked about in a previous episode, but I would be willing to bet that we accepted Joe exotic more than we accepted them. Food is not hot pink, but we probably most definitely did. Um, big booty judge is not without his criticisms but, uh seems like a great guy and everything in Yeah, I think he was a essentially Yeah, he just got the smoke for being Ah, thats this white guy, you know? Um, yeah. I mean, I feel bad. I could only feel so bad because they're fine. But if they're there, find like, I mean, he's gonna be live. There's no lion problem. He is gonna get a cabinet position. Let's let's be honest or he's He's definitely not going back to Indiana, but, yeah, why we we do up lift the trash like Joe exotic is pure trash. But, um definitely didn't get as much smoke from the community as Buddha Church did. So I do feel a little bad that way where it's just like, well, damn like someone who actually is a public servant and, you know, flaws and all. Like, that's just gonna happen when you are a public servant. Ah, it just happens that way. But we if we're just cognizant of how we treat each other with this with their not gay enough being like, hopefully we grow from it because I mean, we are mirroring oppressor like behavior with that, So you've mentioned or talk about it. That did make me a little sad, though, because it's just like, damn Joe exotic and that damn Joe dirt a mullet of hiss. I just charmed. He's way into our hearts, and he's actually that guy. But, you know, you know, happens though it has definitely happens

spk_0:   15:16
Life again. Like you said, they're gonna be fine.

spk_1:   15:18
They'll be fine. So oh, onto more mess. Um, so this was a story that broke this week about, I don't know, in backing up a little bit, um, masher of my our listeners. Or if they want to be aware of a rapper named Bussi Bad s, um he ah had has No, I'll give him. I'll give him credit because independent is this all. And he has a couple of other songs. Did he do white me down, you know? Yeah, right. As you do whatever somebody could watch. Look that up. But anyway, he has some, like, crunk hits. And when I say crunk, I mean Littlejohn error of him being on top, because he certainly is not now. Went to jail, has now for a while, speaks his mind. And a couple months ago, um after our sweet queen Zaia weighed, came out and told her story, Lucy took it upon himself to make some extremely ignorant and disparaging comments about Zaia Wade not cutting her, cutting her her, um, male part off, um, and how wrong that is and how all this is f'd up and just let's be basically as breeders like Bussi tend to do that or suspect themselves how? Just speak out of their ass, you know, just like no one asks for, like, Oh wow, Like, what is Bussi? Think of this. But here Bussi is commenting on a 12 year old girls journey. Um, a lot of the Internet agreed with Bussi because they don't understand that Zai is not getting in. He any surgery done just sharing her truth. Eso Bussi disclosed on a radio interview this week that Jay Z tried to reach out to him to educate him on how wrong those comments are and to essentially apologize for them. Bussi remains defiant, will not apologize about it. Um, and I just wanted to take this time to just talk about Bussi because he not only with his zai away thing, but he's made comments about the queer community in the past, and it's starting to be a pattern. And I'm just going to say I just think you see his family. I do think Lucius family. I think he is, that he is definitely gay, like I just and I'm not about. I'm not about calling anybody up, but this is becoming weirdly familiar. I was like assistant consistent in familiar, though you know where. It's just like, you know, most people who don't care about things don't speak on things. And I do know that there is a whole lane for people being contrarian and wanting to talk out their ass about the queer community like they're the lane for that for sure where people are like, yeah, if it's somebody said it and everything. Um, however, that was a

spk_0:   18:15
great voice for that crowd.

spk_1:   18:16
That's how they are like this. So incident, Yeah, but okay. However, I want to remind Bussi to number one, leave us alone as a community. First of all, leave us alone. Stop being strong and wrong, and actually and this might not be a popular position, but don't apologize if you don't mean it because Dia deserves better than that. I don't think you know, I commend Jay Z who I am a Jay Z in a host stand for reaching out and trying to help him. And Jay Z himself has said homophobe things in his lyrics in the past and definitely ah contributed to that culture. That that is hip hop that is homophobic and everything but has ah, has grown as a man in a lot of respects. Um, and I don't know if everybody has heard smile off his 4 44 album where his mother, Gloria Carter, comes out on his record and he just weeks about just learning that his mom, um, is a lesbian woman. And it is a beautiful song, one of my favorite songs ever. But you know what? We don't we don't need boost, ease. Apology. No, we really don't. We'll be fine without it. And I'm here to tell Bussi like we will accept us family when you come out inevitably so that I feel about Lucy, that's and again we will. You know, sometimes family is difficult, but I can see the family in him, and I just want him to know when he is ready to come out as whatever he is, we will welcome him in there. Just open arms, open arms, open all that fully open. Come on. The bookkeeper apology Any time and stop being strong and wrong so that so I have to say about it.

spk_0:   20:05
I mean, big fax. I mean, Jay Z reaching out is one showing the leadership in being more of a senior hip hop artists that's gone through dumb things, runs his business school looking out for, you know, the the youths, the youths of hip hop powder coming through. I did go back and look at a boost. He did do what me down. So the question for you got you. But also it's like, Yeah, that's progress of an ally, you know, being able to go and do that. I felt like this article to should have just been about the fact that, like Jay Z just was a strong ally so that we didn't even have to bring up the mess that Lucius like,

spk_1:   20:40
Yeah, we don't have time. Like you said, I want to put energy

spk_0:   20:43
towards a 12 year old. That's how you feel like in a family that super supportive and that has this background and that you've probably fucked with bit. And now you're just sitting like again. Like you said, Talk culture ass is like It's a child first of all, and then if you want to go back to my main definition that we gave to the beginning of this, it was assigned male. At first, that was not her gender identity. And you need to just back up off it like everybody feels the need to come in and talk about other people's experiences that mean nothing to them, but because it's outside of something that they understand or can even delve on their own. Which just means that you're not taking the time research talked to people do anything. You're just like, Nope, This is my opinion. I'm standing in. It's like seven people don't have time for this mess and

spk_1:   21:30
leave her alone. It is also likely for own. That's it. Yeah, point blank. Bussi has stepped out again a couple of times outside of this over the years and have said Home of homophobic things, and again, it's just it really. It really reeks of like again like you're suppressing something you know or not, But leave us alone is the were to say, it's always the weirdest thing. Toe. Have someone that's not like you could get. I just don't understand how that affects your life to. You have to even speak on, you know, our community. But then a little girl like, uh but you know, it's fine and Jay z for seven up and he, you know, he does move quietly with a lot of these things. So this Onley came out because Boost. He wanted to make a point of Jay Z reached out to me and, you know, wanted to talk about apologizing and just saying why it's wrong and like Boost. He felt the need to tell everybody like how define he is about this and other, and that he used to help but also did him in the same interview that this has hurt his money. So that's that's what I could always feel better about. So remain strong and wrong remains strong and wrong. So you

spk_0:   22:43
take that conversation to the people who think that queer people don't affect the economy, and it's like okay, but yeah, another conversation for another day at the end of the day. The lesson is much business.

spk_1:   22:53
Find your business. These. It's like, Sir, go back to where you came from, saying, like, we don't need to hear this. Like, it could have been just as you could just as easily called a homeboy or face times your your home boy. And I'm a pause there and talked about it, you know, like it could have just been that that's it, then Just kept pushing. But, you know Yeah, here we are. So that is the end of our queer events for the week we're going to transition into Am I a bad queer? Am I a Bad queer is an advice segment that ranges all topics of the queer experience. Send your question too bad. Queers pod at gmail dot com to be featured. So our first letter from Queenie, which is awesome name, um Queenie Ask, Am I a bad queer? If I want to break up with my friend, you know that it's been time with myself, and the more that I get to review my relationships, I have realized that one of my friends who I thought was and ride or die is really manipulative and not here for me. I am looking at doing better things for myself in terms of self care and leveling up. And every time I say an idea, she's not here for me. Is it time to let go, or just or should I just be understanding that this is a tough time for everyone? Queen Queen without knowing how long you've been friends and how long this friend has been negative and manipulative, I would say back, if not serving, used currently, then every any and everything could be put on notice. Like you. It doesn't actually have to be like, Oh, well, wait until you get to your five a friendship if it's currently not serving you and it's actually impeding you or making you feel bad about yourself and you do want to eliminate that bad energy as soon as you can, friend or not, you find another friend or you could you could probably find somebody that really kind of a tely supplies the good qualities that that friend has, like, let's say that friend is funny. Ah, watch, watch the special. We just fishin. You know, there's a lot of things you could do like there's I just don't think it's anybody has to stay in any situation just because it's a friendship and you know you feel indebted, separate or you have memories with that person. If it's currently not serving you and it currently doesn't feel good than clean, you should just let it go. So, yeah, that's how I feel about that. Shanna, what do you feel?

spk_0:   25:37
Yeah, this is a solid girl by moment. Look as somebody who's had to go through friendship, breakups, and if you watch the most recent episode of Insecure, I won't spoiler alert it because this is probably at the time that people have just started watching it. But this will speak to it as well and probably make you feel a lot better. But

spk_1:   25:54
again, I mean, you listed it. You said that this person probably showed you some

spk_0:   25:59
behaviors that were like Ryder died behaviors. But now they're manipulative. They're not here for you. That here to help your growth. They're not servicing like Esther said, not servicing you. So friendship comes in two way street. If you're not feeling supported, encouraged. But you're putting out that energy a lot more than it's

spk_1:   26:17
probably time to let them go,

spk_0:   26:19
and it doesn't have to be A big drop. Doesn't have to be just like X marks Spot unless you want a tooth in all power to you, girl. But you can wane it off. You can start to distance yourself. You can start to do these things and see as you level up, this person steps up. Or does it. But don't set yourself up to be surprised when these air the behaviors that she's already showing. So

spk_1:   26:40
you're not a bad queer friendship. Breakups

spk_0:   26:41
are hard. Sometimes it's even worse than actual breakup. And sometimes you just you know, it sounds like you're in a spot to be like I am taking this quarantine as a time to grow and be productive, and that is an amazing feat in itself. And

spk_1:   26:58
she could be going through a tough time with this being stuck inside. And,

spk_0:   27:01
you know, I'm sureness of the world and all of these things. But the end of the day you want to do is best for you.

spk_1:   27:08
That's all you could really do. Honestly, I mean, I you could find another friend. I'm gonna be honest. You build another friendship that says you a little bit better or hopefully you have. Ah, you know a friend. What is it? Not a friend ecosystem. Just a friend Circle that is more accepting and more, um, uplifting, less manipulative. I don't know. I mean, it sounds like, you know, you could really replace that. So, you know, Queen, you don't hold on to that. That all it don't do it. What? You have seen a our

spk_0:   27:42
next. Am I Bad queer comes from Shannon says Hi. I got to casually speak to a girl at a local club before the quarantine began. Later on, I randomly chanced upon a profile on her and gave her life. There wasn't any response from her. And I noticed she only likes films. I'm considered andro, but Andrew often Maybe that's why she didn't give me any thought. I was wondering whether or not I should even make the efforts talk to her again. I do see her at a club or just move on. Since I'm not exactly her

spk_1:   28:10
type. Thanks. I don't know where you think you're a bad queer in this. I don't know if you feel

spk_0:   28:17
like because you're trying to put energy toward this person who you feel is not giving you energy

spk_1:   28:22
back, makes you a bad queer.

spk_0:   28:24
Or if, like, being yourself in terms of being like the and drove

spk_1:   28:30
them is making you a bad queer because

spk_0:   28:33
this one person may or may not be attracted

spk_1:   28:36
to you. Who knows? Maybe this person just stop getting on

spk_0:   28:39
her profile and just ended up not swiping on you like I think there's a lot of speculation here about what this other person is doing that you've met one time at a club. And I know it's hard to not think about all of these stories when we're just sitting in our house and have nothing else to think about. But

spk_1:   28:58
you're not about queer. I feel like it's okay. You're just trying out stuff, looking to see what you can do in hoping for the best,

spk_0:   29:04
because it seems like you thought this girl was cute and that it could lead somewhere. But the joys of dating doesn't always work in that way, and sometimes we just have Teoh move on and keep it moving. But

spk_1:   29:16
this person has not message you to say, Hey, it's

spk_0:   29:18
because you're not fem enough in this person. Hasn't message you to say anything else of the sort. Right now, we're just making up stories. So And

spk_1:   29:26
said go with the story that you might be

spk_0:   29:28
busy and just didn't get on the app for some time. I know some people are fully on the app swiping all the time now, and some people are just totally avoiding it. Go for the latter and keep it moving.

spk_1:   29:38
Yeah, there's really no way Teoh to know since she hasn't said anything either way. Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it. Shannon, You guys just continue to just date on. I mean it like that. You had a great moment. Yeah, like Shannon. You just have to keep going. Yeah, like if that person gets back on cool. But, um, yeah, um in the words of Usher Raymond, if you don't have to call, it's okay, girl, I'm abs. I'm gonna be alright tonight. No, that's what he said. You. That is what he said. You brought inertia, baby. Yeah, that's what he said. But, you know, some of these things are pretty prophetic. Honestly. Okay. You know what? Next one next one All right, All right. This is the last one for today, and this is from Liz. Am I a bad queer? I met a girl and got to go on one in person date before Social did. Distancing happened. We've been doing cute social distance. States are rescued talking from the balcony across the street. Walks face time, etcetera. That's actually a lot, right? And I am head over heels. Goodness, it's not. This escalated so fast. And did those crosswalk dates. Am I a bad queer for getting my hopes and my heart up like this? I took a deep breath there because God and I have had clear if I do the long distance u haul and tell her I'm in love. Liz, this you're not a bad queer for being a U haul queer. That's pretty on brand for us. So you're not a bad queer for it? I would caution with I would caution expressing your feelings until you know, for certain I'm really not one of those people like, yeah, skill for it. Um, see how things g o see how things g o I mean, this is this is a pretty gnarly situation that we're in with this quarantine. So you may love her because it's the only person who really connecting with your parents on the square insane. So, you know, it may look like that Loneliness may look like love right now, but, um, yeah, I I wouldn't I would personally refrain from saying that you're in love until you guys have more in person dates. And until you know what all her bad habits are. And I'm not talking about just like face time. I mean, like, living amongst each other or just being around each other. I would wait, I I would wait on this. You're not a bad queer, But I would wait on this. Yeah, yeah. I mean, this one. This this would very much happen if we were allowed to go outside. Um, however, I would just feels as an outsider, like OK, you know, you guys have had a lot of, um, close contact. And maybe maybe you do. You'll love um but because we're in this situation, I am scared that loneliness can be our love can be kind of mistaken here, But maybe your love and you can go for I mean, if you really, truly feel that way then you know, se lobby. But, um, yeah, I don't You know, let's say lovey. Yeah. I mean, you call this

spk_0:   33:18
like, the Romeo and Juliet effect. Yeah, just like you're doing. Like, I mean, you're gonna be talking from a damn balcony. Like

spk_1:   33:24
when Thetis could this be and, you know, romantic. Clearly,

spk_0:   33:31
I mean, all of this, like I need to take some of these ideas causes a great but I think because it is such a flip on what's happening in the world and this is very like, romantic moment that it does like, kind of level up, that feeling of like, Oh my God, yes, and totally in love. This is my forever person. And I need to tell them in all of these there is no no brush. It is OK. It is OK. You're both are not going anywhere so can't disappear on. You can't

spk_1:   34:00
do anything like that, continue to get

spk_0:   34:02
to know them. And then once we have this all end, please figure it out in person first. Like I get that you have been able to like, be in person, but six feet across the street doing whatever. Like

spk_1:   34:15
take the time. We've only been in this

spk_0:   34:17
quarantine for like, a month and 1/2. Like calm down. This is regular, like U haul time, and we won't say that you're a bad queer trying to you all, but at the same time pump the brakes. It's OK. Just enjoy what you're doing now. It sounds like all of this is working for you both. Keep doing it. Keep talking. The joys of actually being able to just, like, sit and talk and not be interrupted by, you know, work or habits or friendship groups. And things like that puts you in a nice

spk_1:   34:44
little bubble. See what happens when you get to expand that bubble again. Yeah. Before expressing yourself, like outside life stressors Come back. Yeah. Like to see, Let's just see, you know, less secular Seaworld home. Yeah, like I'm hoping for the best.

spk_0:   35:02
And I would love it if this was your story in this move forward. And that's how you did it. Hoping for the best. But also, there's no need to rush. It is. Okay, I I feel like this person's a baby gay.

spk_1:   35:14
Yeah, it sounds like it. It really does, which is fine. I'm just letting you know we've been there, and we've definitely thought things were We're definitely mistaken love. Unless so, you know, be aware of that. And also these extreme situation, this extreme situation. Excuse me. Like it kind of has kind of a romantic feel to it. Like, you know, you you guys air, like, again balcony dates and, uh, beating, talking across that you were so impressed by this. Yeah, like I'm just, like, OK,

spk_0:   35:51
like we're gonna have toe. Right?

spk_1:   35:52
Meet me on the balcony. Yeah. Or like, I'm standing outside your window. You have the street wall E. I mean, the whole street everything. Neighbors can

spk_0:   36:00
hear your conversation, but

spk_1:   36:01
Okay. It's just like I mean, look, maybe farther than along then a lot of us would be, but I just think you should wait. Just see what happens was I got this. That is all that we have four. Am I bad career

spk_0:   36:15
today? And remember, if you have any bad, we're scenarios. Please send them to backwards pod at gmail dot com. And we would be happy to feature you on the show. All right. What type of cars will be be what have a backwards will be be if we didn't have unpopular queer opinions. This is our favorite segment to push all the tropes and stereotypes and just tell you about some things that you might disagree with.

spk_1:   36:37
Mm, Yes, yes. And for my bad queer opinion for this week Maybe ruffle a little feathers. Or maybe not. We were all on the same page about that. This but let let's give it a shot. I personally am not a fan of the pride flag. I think it's too many colors. Um, the rainbow was cute. I know that. Ah, I know that the different colors represent different things. That's really great. But I'm not a fan. I I do not I don't This I don't hate the pride flag. Um, is it obvious? I just Is it I don't hate it. I mean, you know, you see it and I'm like, Oh, fam, like, I really feel like warm feelings towards seeing it because I know what it means and oh, my God, she cool Sam. And it's also it is an identifier, obviously, but personally, um, it's too many colors for me. Um, I just think that maybe weaken get together along What kind of you know what I said in the previous episode of our bride? Like, maybe we could, you know, get on the same page about, Ah, some other colors that might work for for all of us might be well cooled a sport and everything, Um, early color combinations that I have, I think their personal to me. But e do I personally like white, red and black, but those are my favorite colors. Um, and it it shouldn't just be on me. Eso I understand again that, you know, the different colors mean different things, but I just I've never been a fan of the price. Like like I won't wear anything with the pride flag on it just cause in It's literally just colors. And that's super super cosmetic and like shallow. But it's my unpopular queer opinion like it's just a bad queer opinion against, But, uh, no, I'm not here for the pride flag. Not not not even is like a stated

spk_0:   38:39
like a bandanna, like a little one of those like risk place, like they used to be live strong bracelets until they found the true meaning of what happened with those.

spk_1:   38:48
Why can't we have, like, a picture flag? Like, why don't we take better tread on me flag and say you won't tread on me? You know, there's, like, Why don't we have a picture on the flight? Why do we have to have so many colors? Like, why can't it be a cool picture of something? Where is, like, that s for something like that? My I don't know. We get all brainstorm. Um, were the most creative group. So I'm sure we could come up with something even more dope. But no, no, I'm not a not a fan of the pride flag. No. Did you know that? Learn something new about you every day. Yeah, I was like, a

spk_0:   39:24
color palette, but yeah, I was like,

spk_1:   39:26
Okay, okay. Yeah, I know. And I'm again. I probably won't be the best for this. Gives their other colors that I would love words like, Oh, these air way more born, and yeah, but just not a fan. Just not a fan. Alright, that said all right. My unpopular career opinion for the week is that RuPaul's drag

spk_0:   39:43
race is not my favorite.

spk_1:   39:44
Um it's not. I don't even really watch it like I love you more offensive than my pride flag.

spk_0:   39:50
Okay, look, stop trying to turn the tables right about some. Yeah, that's the part that you decided to delay on Feel like on purpose. Okay, look, I love route. I love everything. That route stands for all of the stuff. All of the platforms, all of the things. Like who else has been the most famous drag queen ever compared to room, like the respect is there, the love is there. The love for the show is not like I just I just can't I was I

spk_1:   40:18
probably will only And even if I do watch it like this season only episode I'm gonna watch

spk_0:   40:21
is the one with AOC in it because I love her and that's about it. But otherwise I'm like, No, I just It's mesas. Petty is drama. And, like there are places in times that I love the petty in the mess in the drama. But I'm just like it's the most. And I watched one episode where they have, like, a full dance off and the one guy, like, barely did anything. And then the other drag queen like went and was like kicking and flipping and doing all this stuff. And I was like,

spk_1:   40:46
How are you to even in the state who vetted this? Why am I sitting here watching this when somebody clearly did not vet that this dry queen do X and this

spk_0:   40:55
drag queen could do why? And it's like, How were they competing now? And I was I just couldn't I was like, No, this is

spk_1:   41:01
which 11

spk_0:   41:04
obviously the one that, like, kicked over the head.

spk_1:   41:06
OK, just not sure

spk_0:   41:08
if the other one had won, I would have combat

spk_1:   41:11
turned it all. I still because I also had

spk_0:   41:16
to stick around for a second for the drama that happened afterwards. But otherwise I'm like, It's not It's not saying. I know it's been in the paper a lot in the paper online a lot, you know,

spk_1:   41:25
and and I'm just I'm just know there's not anything

spk_0:   41:30
that keeps me to it. I don't go to any of the RuPaul drag race watch parties and just like

spk_1:   41:35
No, thank you. It's not my job. Yeah,

spk_0:   41:37
and I'm like, I won't I won't do it. So sorry.

spk_1:   41:40
Not sorry. I love how you said I love rue your power rule you. I love room, You know, like it's your e o rule. Fantastic. And all the things that yeah, we're doing in the world. But I'm just not here for the show. Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree as well. I, uh, always have queer friends, breeder, friends, tummy. You watch RuPaul's drag. Quit? No, don't do not. I

spk_0:   42:05
was like, not every queer person of color watches RuPaul's drag wish.

spk_1:   42:07
Yeah. No. And I love um, You know, I think it's because I actually, if it's not an interest to me like I am, if I were to see something, like, I would want to go to, like, a voguing or a ballroom kind of thing. Like I know there's a show on HBO, obviously on its way. Yep. Our at this point about that. So I am very excited for that. Now this, you know, not my cup of tea. Um, but yet immensely popular. And RuPaul is a living legend of this Well, but you know, it's just a hard past. I have no desire to watch it. No, I don't. Not not even a little bit, you know? And I know it's good. I know it's good. I'm sure it's good. Um, yeah, they pass. All right, Well,

spk_0:   42:54
feeling we pissed off a lot of people in today's back. Queers are no unpopular bad queer segment. But that's what you came for And you're welcome. Let's before we roll out, get some shoutouts to our faves I'm gonna go ahead and give a shout out to Ari fits the are reason non binary model dancer YouTuber influencer in that bitch all day, every day And like I really honestly, I'm gonna be honest, like most of people that I have been shouting out lately are the people who have just been killing it on social media and I've loved them. But now that I'm watching more of their daily posts, I'm just, like, hones in Why I love you even more. And Ari is just one of them. Like all of the stuff that goes out on their social media, from the videos to the retweets to the questions dips down into a lot of vulnerability. Like all of it is just amazing, but also is just so unapologetic. Um, verifying for yourself and your identity and the person that you are. But also just realizing the vulnerabilities that we have while being in this uncertain place right now. And I just love it. I love them. Please keep killing the game just to all the things are you Please never stop.

spk_1:   44:05
That's a good one. Ideally, hurry. Um my shot out is too young in May for, um, some very good instagram lives that are highly entertaining during this quarantine with ah young in May inviting some consenting young ladies to dance on instagram live way to put that great great content. You know, for these for these times and, um just what a just wanna shatter out I just want to shatter out, You know, it's going to take a village to entertain all of us while we're inside and she's doing her part, and, uh, I appreciate it. I appreciate the content. So appreciate the content.

spk_0:   44:46
People coming on throwing that ass in a circle.

spk_1:   44:48
Ah, it is Bt uncut like, um, but during the day. So that's why I one I think young in May. For that, I mean, because there's enough rat mill CIS male rappers doing that, so tohave. You know, a young May looking out script during the thing, Looking out for fan looking out for the fan, looking

spk_0:   45:10
out for the family. That's how you wanted to reel that in?

spk_1:   45:12
Yeah, yeah, Looking out for the fam Yeah, You know you don't really want it. You know, we see it enough in the rap videos and songs with the CIS robbers, but just to have someone who, uh, someone who is fam and has a delicate, delicate glaze envision over just providing good entertainment First during this time in specific entertainment is great. So check out young amaze Instagram Instagram lives If you young and I have not already

spk_0:   45:43
delicate glaze on society And on that note we're close up the show. Thank you all for checking in and we'll see you

spk_1:   45:50
next week. Take care me.